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	<title>Comments on: Apprised of the Prizing</title>
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		<title>By: KAT</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing! Keep up the good work and keep posting progress. Looks like you guys are going gangbusters.
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I just hope we can get it put back together before you see it again. -- mss
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing! Keep up the good work and keep posting progress. Looks like you guys are going gangbusters.</p>
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I just hope we can get it put back together before you see it again. &#8212; mss</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The subfloor in our 40&#039;s house is laid diagonally.  It&#039;s pine but it is fairly rough and there are fairly large gaps between the boards.  The kitchen had plywood over the subfloor and lineoleum and then another thin layer of plywood and linoleum tiles.

In the breakfast room addition there was oak over the subfloor but the subfloor was deteriorating.  I ripped it all out and for awhile we were looking at bare dirt between the 2x6&#039;s. We had to step across them to get to the back door.  I built it back up with plywood to the same height as the kitchen and then we had vinyl put down in both rooms.
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Perhaps my terminology is wrong; maybe what I called the subfloor is really the underlayment. Beneath the 3-inch wide pine planks are huge (2x12s?) planks laid diagonally. That&#039;s what&#039;s on the joists. Our house is pier and beam, so we&#039;re above a crawl space (just big enough for racoons, but very difficult for workmen to get under the house).
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Our big problem with the floor is that one of the joists bowed. The summit runs right through the center of the kitchen. We thought the foundation was sinking, but the foundation people said it was fine. It is pretty obvious (by the way the cabinets were constructed) that the floor bowed up early in the life of the house and everything else built around it. -- mss
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The subfloor in our 40&#8242;s house is laid diagonally.  It&#8217;s pine but it is fairly rough and there are fairly large gaps between the boards.  The kitchen had plywood over the subfloor and lineoleum and then another thin layer of plywood and linoleum tiles.</p>
<p>In the breakfast room addition there was oak over the subfloor but the subfloor was deteriorating.  I ripped it all out and for awhile we were looking at bare dirt between the 2&#215;6&#8242;s. We had to step across them to get to the back door.  I built it back up with plywood to the same height as the kitchen and then we had vinyl put down in both rooms.</p>
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Perhaps my terminology is wrong; maybe what I called the subfloor is really the underlayment. Beneath the 3-inch wide pine planks are huge (2x12s?) planks laid diagonally. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s on the joists. Our house is pier and beam, so we&#8217;re above a crawl space (just big enough for racoons, but very difficult for workmen to get under the house).
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Our big problem with the floor is that one of the joists bowed. The summit runs right through the center of the kitchen. We thought the foundation was sinking, but the foundation people said it was fine. It is pretty obvious (by the way the cabinets were constructed) that the floor bowed up early in the life of the house and everything else built around it. &#8212; mss</p>
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